Thank you for keeping "80s All Over" up. I've circled back to it at some point every year as a kind of podcasting north star and it's been helping me stay (relatively) sane this year.
With all your comparisons between church and the theater (all of which are important), you left the one thing that church is all about - the path to salvation. That's the point of church in the first place. That being the case, there is no comparison. Not a bit. I respect your honesty, but you have completely missed the point.
Respectfully right back at you, but I haven't missed any point. I don't believe salvation comes from an external supernatural force. I think any salvation at all that we find comes in the form of our own strength and in the community of other people.
I also think religion adds the element of dogma, which leads to all sorts of profound abuse, and salvation often ends up being the exact opposite of what people find in church.
Yes, but churches do believe salvation comes from an external supernatural force and that is its very foundation, not simply fellowship or what we gain personally from it or any other egocentric reason. This is not true of a theater or any non-religious entity. Thus there is no comparison. As far as that abuse thing, that is a faint minority and not representative of what religion is. Live and believe however you like, but it seems like your comparison is your way of delegitimizing religion, especially considering how you feel about it.
The movie theater is my church as well. The best moments of my life so far have happened either sitting in the theater experiencing some specific moment in a movie that has changed me or the conversation outside the theater about a specific movie. I also haven’t been to the theater since this all happened and I can’t wait to go back. Feels like a part of me is missing until I do.
The Force Awakens is the highest grossing movie of all time in America. The Mandalorian is a Disney+ show that’s popular on social media. Relax with the hyperbole.
"Highest grossing" doesn't mean nearly as much as people say. The only true measure of a film's success is how many tickets it sold. No. 1 is Gone with the Wind. No. 2 is Star Wars.
Very true. So it’s #11 all time adjusted for inflation/tickets sold in the US. It was a genuine phenomenon. Unfortunately the mixed reaction, however unfair, to The Last Jedi and the utter contempt for The Rise of Skywalker has made people look at the trilogy has a relatively negative experience. Now I’m not going to pretend The Force Awakens was perfect as it was way too similar to A New Hope but it absolutely got people incredibly excited for Star Wars again. Props to The Mandalorian for making sure that excitement sticks.
Man... I really enjoy these free articles. I wish I could swing the membership fee(how pathetic is that? I can’t afford a measly membership fee equivalent to a few cups of coffee a month). Anyways...the Johnny Depp situation in Fantastic Beasts is so odd. Warner Bros knew everything when they hired him. I do think he was rather effective in the role, his short amount of screen time not withstanding but it’s weird that they fire him now. I guess they didn’t want the distraction and headache of the appeal process.
Speaking of Murray. Drew, have you heard any rumblings about Jason Reitman’s Ghostbusters movie? Positive or negative? I’ve been waiting on a 3rd ghostbusters film since I first saw the news on a potential third film in 1997! Crazy. Now that we finally have one, Covid hits and who knows when the movie will eventually debut. I only wish we could’ve had a proper GB3 with Harold Ramis suiting up.
Anyways, I appreciate these free articles. I look forward to them every week. I only wish I could read your reviews.
It's kind of a moot point now, but we're never getting that "Rise of Skywalker" piece, are we? :)
All kidding aside, I haven't been quite as enamored by Season Two of "The Mandalorian" because I worry it will dip too much into fan service, but I've enjoyed both episodes this season in their own ways. I love how the series is going about its own thing from a story standpoint, not feeling like it has to do things similar to the shows and movies that came before, and how it's leaning into the gunslinger western trope really well. (And I could not love Ludwig's score more.)
I have two days of three movies seen in theatres on the same day that rank as two of my favorites, and actually, they both involve the building I worked at from November 2 of 2001 to September 30 of this year, when it closed for good. In 1997, before it was remodeled to be the building I would work at, they were one of the only theatres showing all three of the "Star Wars" Special Editions at the same time, so my mom and I met there to do an all-day trilogy, going from one to the next to the next; my mom bailed after "Empire," but I stayed for "Jedi," and it was one of my favorite times ever watching the trilogy. The next one was in early 2012, and my best friend and I did a triple header, starting at a theatre across town for a showing of "War Horse" before racing to see a screening of "The Adventures of Tintin" in my theatre's premium auditorium, culminating in "Hugo" at my auditorium.
I've had plenty of theatrical experiences that meant a great deal to me, but I find it's more often repeat viewings at home where a film really digs in to me on an emotional or spiritual level.
I hope you and yours are doing well, Drew (and the rest of your subscribers).
Thank you for keeping "80s All Over" up. I've circled back to it at some point every year as a kind of podcasting north star and it's been helping me stay (relatively) sane this year.
With all your comparisons between church and the theater (all of which are important), you left the one thing that church is all about - the path to salvation. That's the point of church in the first place. That being the case, there is no comparison. Not a bit. I respect your honesty, but you have completely missed the point.
Respectfully right back at you, but I haven't missed any point. I don't believe salvation comes from an external supernatural force. I think any salvation at all that we find comes in the form of our own strength and in the community of other people.
I also think religion adds the element of dogma, which leads to all sorts of profound abuse, and salvation often ends up being the exact opposite of what people find in church.
I'll stick with my faith, thanks.
Yes, but churches do believe salvation comes from an external supernatural force and that is its very foundation, not simply fellowship or what we gain personally from it or any other egocentric reason. This is not true of a theater or any non-religious entity. Thus there is no comparison. As far as that abuse thing, that is a faint minority and not representative of what religion is. Live and believe however you like, but it seems like your comparison is your way of delegitimizing religion, especially considering how you feel about it.
The movie theater is my church as well. The best moments of my life so far have happened either sitting in the theater experiencing some specific moment in a movie that has changed me or the conversation outside the theater about a specific movie. I also haven’t been to the theater since this all happened and I can’t wait to go back. Feels like a part of me is missing until I do.
The Force Awakens is the highest grossing movie of all time in America. The Mandalorian is a Disney+ show that’s popular on social media. Relax with the hyperbole.
"Highest grossing" doesn't mean nearly as much as people say. The only true measure of a film's success is how many tickets it sold. No. 1 is Gone with the Wind. No. 2 is Star Wars.
Very true. So it’s #11 all time adjusted for inflation/tickets sold in the US. It was a genuine phenomenon. Unfortunately the mixed reaction, however unfair, to The Last Jedi and the utter contempt for The Rise of Skywalker has made people look at the trilogy has a relatively negative experience. Now I’m not going to pretend The Force Awakens was perfect as it was way too similar to A New Hope but it absolutely got people incredibly excited for Star Wars again. Props to The Mandalorian for making sure that excitement sticks.
Well said. 🤘
Man... I really enjoy these free articles. I wish I could swing the membership fee(how pathetic is that? I can’t afford a measly membership fee equivalent to a few cups of coffee a month). Anyways...the Johnny Depp situation in Fantastic Beasts is so odd. Warner Bros knew everything when they hired him. I do think he was rather effective in the role, his short amount of screen time not withstanding but it’s weird that they fire him now. I guess they didn’t want the distraction and headache of the appeal process.
Speaking of Murray. Drew, have you heard any rumblings about Jason Reitman’s Ghostbusters movie? Positive or negative? I’ve been waiting on a 3rd ghostbusters film since I first saw the news on a potential third film in 1997! Crazy. Now that we finally have one, Covid hits and who knows when the movie will eventually debut. I only wish we could’ve had a proper GB3 with Harold Ramis suiting up.
Anyways, I appreciate these free articles. I look forward to them every week. I only wish I could read your reviews.
It's kind of a moot point now, but we're never getting that "Rise of Skywalker" piece, are we? :)
All kidding aside, I haven't been quite as enamored by Season Two of "The Mandalorian" because I worry it will dip too much into fan service, but I've enjoyed both episodes this season in their own ways. I love how the series is going about its own thing from a story standpoint, not feeling like it has to do things similar to the shows and movies that came before, and how it's leaning into the gunslinger western trope really well. (And I could not love Ludwig's score more.)
I have two days of three movies seen in theatres on the same day that rank as two of my favorites, and actually, they both involve the building I worked at from November 2 of 2001 to September 30 of this year, when it closed for good. In 1997, before it was remodeled to be the building I would work at, they were one of the only theatres showing all three of the "Star Wars" Special Editions at the same time, so my mom and I met there to do an all-day trilogy, going from one to the next to the next; my mom bailed after "Empire," but I stayed for "Jedi," and it was one of my favorite times ever watching the trilogy. The next one was in early 2012, and my best friend and I did a triple header, starting at a theatre across town for a showing of "War Horse" before racing to see a screening of "The Adventures of Tintin" in my theatre's premium auditorium, culminating in "Hugo" at my auditorium.
I've had plenty of theatrical experiences that meant a great deal to me, but I find it's more often repeat viewings at home where a film really digs in to me on an emotional or spiritual level.
I hope you and yours are doing well, Drew (and the rest of your subscribers).